This week, Jack and Annie talk where to go when you're hot in the summer (cruises in Iceland, Scandi cities, Bavaria), and debate whether Jack might be talking a little too much about beach clubs–Annie thinks yes but that isn't stopping her from flying to La Guerite in Cannes.

Then, top travel and lifestyle journalist Mark Ellwood joins to talk about what joy really looks like in travel today, why “authentic” is just a filler word, the continual proliferation of fine dining in hotels, and why you should live like a tourist, not a local.

Plus, five of Mark's favorite hotels (and why Venice is so romantic in the winter), and three luxury brands he loves that aren't by LVMH or Kering.

Jack & Annie Intro 

15:45 – Mark Ellwood Interview Begins

42:55 - Five of Mark's Favorite Hotels

eriro in the Austrian Alps

Eden Rock in St. Bart’s

Violino d’Oro

Raffles London at the OWO

Aeolos Hotel in Koufonisia

On living away from the UK and living in NYC forever – “The longer you’re away, the more you become a weird version of not yourself. If you go back to where you’re from, the shape that you left behind you no longer fit but people don’t realize. But I relish that…a citizen of nowhere.”

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